Direct Quote:
';This young man is the hope of the entire world that America will change and be made better,'; he said. ';This young man is capturing audiences of black and brown and red and yellow. If you look at Barack Obama's audiences and look at the effect of his words, those people are being transformed.';
Farrakhan compared Obama to the religion's founder, Fard Muhammad, who also had a white mother and black father.
';A black man with a white mother became a savior to us,'; he told the crowd of mostly followers. ';A black man with a white mother could turn out to be one who can lift America from her fall.';After Louis Farrakhan's latest rant can there be any doubt about Obama's political and religious persuasion?
A ';direct quote'; without a source. Very convenient. The last time I checked, even Louis Farrakhan had freedom of speech and what he says/ does has nothing to do with Barack Obama.
VOTE AGAINST the politics of FEAR and HATRED!
VOTE FOR the politics of HOPE and UNITY!!
VOTE DEMOCRAT in '08!!
VOTE OBAMA!!After Louis Farrakhan's latest rant can there be any doubt about Obama's political and religious persuasion?
What does what Farrakhan says have to do with what Obama thinks.
The quote shows that one more person sees Obama as their savior! This is very concerning. The man is running for president, yet his followers see him as a deity.
We all know what happens when human beings are put on pedestals don't we?
Good quote. With friends like that you don't need enemies
I have come across some of the articles with these stories. I can't say whether Obama may not know what he has gotten himself into, or he doesn't care what image he is projecting.
Some of the beliefs of this church are questionable.
But voters have to vote by what they know about the candidates, and not because of race, gender, or religion.
I don't support any of the current candidates, I'm doing a write-in.
Yes, there's plenty of doubt, because there's no proof that he is muslim.
Obama as a Muslim:
This is like a dog chasing its tail. This has been gone over time and time and time again.
Obama is not a Muslim.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/mus鈥?/a>
Obama makes the thing about the National Anthem quite clear...
BEGIN QUOTE
';This was not during the pledge of allegiance,'; Obama said of the picture taken at Senator Tom Harkin's,
D-Iowa, annual steak fry and first published by Time. ';A woman was singing the
Star Spangled Banner when that picture was taken.
';'I was taught by my grandfather that you put your hand over your heart during the pledge, but during the Star Spangled Banner, you sing!' Obama said.';
END QUOTE
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/鈥?/a>
Regarding Obama ';swearing in'; on the Koran--wrong.
http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/arti鈥?/a>
It was Minnesota Congressman Keith Ellison, not Obama.
And in fact, congressmen don't swear on any religious text. They just raise their right hand. Some carry religious texts with them.
I am sure that if Obama gets the nomination the KKK, Aryan nation, and other white supremicists will ';endorse'; McCain. Would that make him a racist by association, too?
I love it how you didn't inject any opinions in there, and still Obama supporters come to the conclusion that there is something wrong with it and proceed to insult you.
All you did was quote it, and automatically they go nuts. They see it, but they deny it. its almost as if they are fighting themselves. The weirdest thing ever.
To answer your question, sure there is doubt, otherwise people wouldn't be asking the question. That is what the real issue is. Why is it that half of america doesn't believe this person, and what does that say about him ';bringing us together';. Don't know, guess time will be the judge.
What you also, need to ask yourself, is why this person made this quote all of sudden, when everyone is questioning his abilities on Foreign relations. Its almost as if someone asked him to come out in support of Obama, so everyone can say, see he is already on their good side, this is proof that he will do a good job. Sends shivers down my spine.
Now that's scary.
and you find this to be threatening because you don't consider yourself part of the world or just don't like people who aren't white?
farrakhan would support an ebony tree if it could run. with him, anything black is good, white is bad. period.
Obama has no control over anyone saying anything about him.
Plus, I fail to see the harm in this quote.
Obama does unite many colors, ages, economic status and so on.
So, using this argument, we should elect a Jewish man who now believes in Jesus, since Jesus's parents were Jews as was Jesus.
He is a democrat and belongs to a Christian church. This is Farrakhan talking to his relatively small flock of supporters. White people stopped being of scared of Farrakhan in the 90s, get over it.
That is what Farrakhan said, not Obama.
I fail to see how this ';proves'; what Obama believes. Farrakhan is free to say, at least as an individual, what he wants about the various Presidential candidates.
Tuesday, December 22, 2009
Why do BJP politicians only talk about Hindus and rant Sri Ram? Is it radical group or political party?
I have been watching their rallies and none of them have ever talked about Muslims. They rant Sri Ram's name. How do you think non-hindu's feel about this? After all BJP is suppose to be political party of India, who thinks about ALL the religion, NOT JUST HINDUISM.
If a Muslim Political party keeps on saying Allah, what would hindu's feel?
Lets just assume that BJP does make a government, will they think about Muslims and Christians in India?
Thank you kindly for your POVs.Why do BJP politicians only talk about Hindus and rant Sri Ram? Is it radical group or political party?
They are politicians who are trying to fool people by making them more sentimental and emotional,
caz there is no one such educated in bjp who can tell them abt growth plans and allWhy do BJP politicians only talk about Hindus and rant Sri Ram? Is it radical group or political party?
Better know Hinduism and Hindu first and then talk all that rubbish Talking Hindus is radical and taking of Muslims and others is secularism is this your definition of secularism? ....majority of population is Hindu so what is wrong in working for them ? One cant talk about hindus in Pakistan or Bangladesh ...So what is your
problem ?
Hindu is geographical term every resident of India is Hindu ...HINDU = INDIAN ....
What is BJP's target?
- to get maximum no of Hindu votes .
How can a party attract Hindus ?
- make something your political agenda which is very closely related to Hindu sentiment.
Where can you find the most no of Hindu votes?
- in the so called 'cow-belt', %26amp; UP in this region has always played a vital role in Indian politics.
What is position of Ram among those ppl?
- ENORMOUS ! Ram is an inseparable part of their life.
I think you got your answer !
They don't stand for India and Indians.
Their love is first for the Hindus, then the north Indian Hindus and then the north Indian upper caste Hindus.
This a fact as clear as day light.
Good that you are a Hindu, but an ignorant Hindu. If you dont want to understand something not even god can make you understand it. So God bless you. But let me tell you that you are on the wrong side, sooner you realise it the better.
you are mistaken dear. BJP thinks for everyone. it has supporters from all sections of the society. there are lots of muslims in BJP.
unfortunately in india the system of election process gone wrong for votes.congress appease minorities for votes bjp appease majority.both are bad hence no body should feel bad
you are another victim of congress party's policy of ';buying'; media and using it as per their wish. actually this wonderful idea was gandhi's brainchild which congress inherited just like it inherited the policy of divide and rule from britishers.
and as far as indian constitution and secularism and muslim rights are concerned these all are weapons invented by congress to rule india upto eternity.
nobody ever talks of hindu rights in bangaldesh, pakistan and indonesia ( infact in kashmir and north-east as well ). do you know that pakistani flag has already been hoisted in assam and hindus have left that place. don't you think that you have some responsibility ( though i know that hindus are selfish ) towards fellow hindus. do you know that in malaysia temples are destroyed and hindus are forcefully converted. in indonesia hindus are leaving java and settling in bali ( thanks to balinese hindus who believe in tit for tat ). they ask indian government to interfere but this anti hindu congress govt. becomes silent spectator to prove its loyality to its muslim vote bank. hindus are converted by missionaries by allurement. do you know that western countries find india as a soft target to christianise because of its overstretched policies ( thanks to secularism ). they never set up their missionaries in china or muslim countries. i can type for hours but i have already given a detailed answer to your other question.
now it is up to you to preserve your culture and religion or make the same mistakes that hindus are doing for centuries. either learn from the history or remember history repeates itself.
and if you couldn't make out anything from my answer then i can only say that,
it is very normal for hindus like you to be ignorant. most hindus are ignorant. this ignorance of hindus is the sole reason for india's current position.
i can only pray to god to show fellow hindu brothers right path.
but friend please do one thing, only one thing.
JUST READ HISTORY OF CONGRESS PARTY FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. it will require at most your few hours. but spending that much time for your nation's future is worthwhile.
Muslims are already ranting Allah Ho Akbar on every corner. BJP is not against muslims but it is against appeasement politics. BJP wants justice for all and appeasement of none.
Congress has made muslims a votebank appeasing the fundamentalism and extremist elements amongst muslims. They give money for Madrassas but dont create universal public education for all regardless of religion.
They give subsidies for Haj from public funds when India could use those for development which would benefit the muslims too.
Secularism demands that the Country have a uniform civil code for all citizens but the Congress refuses to apply it. All western countries have uniform civil code.
The rights of muslim women as individuals in India have been compromised because of the abject surrender of the Congress to some muslim fundamentalists at the expense of the average muslims.
No country in the world with muslim populations gives Haj Subsidy including muslim countries but congress diverts much needed funds that can go toward a scientific education for muslims toward Haj subsidies.
Even Islam says that only a muslim who can afford to do the Haj should do it. Why subsidies then?
Muslims are their own worst enemies when they vote for congress.
Congress is like the parent who is spoiling his muslim child rotten but is actually doing them harm because the child will not learn to survive on their own in the modern world.
Give someone a fish and they eat for a day, teach them to fish and they will eat for life.
BJP may appear rude to muslims but this is the truth!
The CD controversy in U.P. election has proved once again, if any proof is needed, how much BJP hates Muslims. BJP's anti-Muslim record has touched new heights. How can any politically responsible party taking part in democratic election and taking oath for secularism, can produce such propaganda stuff. The CD is full of hate for Muslims and uses very derogatory language. The only parallel one can find is Nazi's hate of Jews, no other example could be found.
It celebrates any anti-Muslim measure or judgement. Recently when the single judge of Allahabad High Court declared Muslims in U.P. as not being a minority, the BJP spokesperson immediately welcomed the judgement as refutation of Congress party's ';minorityism';and vindication of BJP's stand. No other party welcomed the judgement and all other party's except the BJP criticised the judgement as unfair. The Judge had simply pronounced the judgement, which was not even relevant to the petition before him and he had not even given reasons for the judgement he delivered. The judgement was even against what the Supreme Court had held in TMA Pai Foundation judgement.
Right from post-independence days Muslims have been taken as constituting minority, though most major one. No one had ever expressed any doubt about it. The Supreme Court had held that any religious community less than 50% in number shall be deemed to be a minority and any all India -minority will also be deemed to be minority in any state. Also, as claimed by the honourable judge of Allahabad High Court, there are no such references in the Constitutional Assembly debates to prove that Muslims are not a minority in U.P. or any other state of Union of India.
Before all these matters were gone into, BJP immediately welcomed the judgement and treated it as vindication of its stand on minorityism. One can as well tell BJP that the Congress whether indulges in minorityism or not BJP certainly indulges in anti-Muslimism. It whole-heartedly welcomes any anti-Muslim measure most enthusiastically.
In fact during the entire campaign for Ramjanmabhoomi BJP and many of its individual members like Sadhvi Rithambara and others indulged in most vicious anti-Muslim campaign. Cheap rhetoric of all Muslims being ';Babar ki Aulad'; (Babar's children) was indulged in without any restraint. Uma Bharti and Rithambara used most abusive language against Muslims throughout Ramjanmaboomi campaign until Babri Masjid was demolished by a frenzied mob and when Masjid was demolished BJP leaders hugged each other in joy and celebrated the day as day of Diwali. Crackers were burst, especially in U.P. throughout that night.
Even today the Sangh Parivar celebrates it as ';Shaurya Divas'; (day of bravery) whereas whole country observes it as a tragic day in the history of secular India. And all this after the leaders of Jan Sangh, which was re-christened as Bhartiya Janta Party (BJP) had taken a vow on Gandhiji's Samadhi of following principles of Gandhian socialism and secularism. Soon after taking this oath in 1980 it started its anti-Muslim campaign describing constitutional secularism as pseudo-secularism and accused the Congress for indulging in ';minorityism'; and fought subsequent elections with those slogans.
I sincerely advise BJP leaders to rename the party as BHP (Bhartiya Hindu Party) as it always excludes Muslims from people of India. Had it been sincerely Bhartiya Janata Party, it would have never adopted such anti-Muslim attitude towards Indian Muslims. Thus Hindu Mahasabha is more sincere in its ideology as it clearly designates itself as Hindu Party caring only for Hindu interests. And to this extent Hindu Mahasabha leaders disagree with BJP because the important word ';Hindu'; is missing though it claims to be looking after Hindu interests.
The BJP leaders are trying to disown the CD under question only after the Election Commission took a strong view of the contents of the CD and said it is likely to promote disharmony between religious communities and issued notice to the BJP why action should not be taken against it. We congratulate the courage and principled stand taken by the Election Commission on this issue. It was overdue. Many prominent citizens have petitioned the Election Commission to de-recognise BJP as a political party as it always indulges in campaigns which endangers national unity and integrity.
Anyway any party, which publicly proclaims ';Hindutva Agenda'; cannot be a secular party which it avows to be. Hindutva or Islamism in political arena for that matter cannot be in conformity with secularism. Secularism is basically a political doctrine. All political parties have to conform to secularism as a political philosophy and Election Commission requires all candidates filing nomination to take oath for secularism and political parties also have to declare their acceptance of it. How can then a party proclaiming ';Hindutva';doctrine be accepted as secular? It defies common sense.
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you alone are not living in gujarat. i have never experienced any of the thing that you mentioned in gujarat i think you live in some alienated part of gujarat.they have not alienated Muslims and Christians from progress in gujarat. i know many Christians that today have voted for BJP.
and which type of Gujarati you are when people answered your question that all things in gujarat are hype except killing of 1500 Muslims.i am so tired of this 2002 incident that people in gujarat are trying to move on but people of remaining part of india are not allowing us to do so.
and you have misread advani's interview that Kashmir is India but it would be Kashmir is in India.
and if you know that Narendra Modi have delivered 11.5 % GDP growth higher than any other state then you should have supported him but people like did not want the growth and so are criticizing them for no reason.you must be some Patel's which are not given importance in elections today or must be some Muslim talking in name of Hindu.
Secular parties only talk about Muslims they don't talk about Hindus, then should not Hindus feel bad?
Pakistan and Bangladesh were once India, today they are Islamic countries, Hindus have been ethnically cleansed, no Hindu can live there even if they want to, because they are Islamic but Muslims can live in India because we are secular. J%26amp;K is only Muslim majority state and Hindus from the valley were ethnically cleansed, but no one talks about them, are not they Human beings?
Crores of rupees are given to Muslims for Haj subsides, why should secular govt. give that much money for religious pilgrimages. Why not Hindus are given money for pilgrimages?
What about the victims of terrorist attacks, no one talks about them but every one talks about Muslim riot victims that took place years before. Are Hindu terrorist victims not human beings, then why UPA withdrew POTA, why are they not hanging terrorist Afzal who was convicted by SC. Is this secularism.
PM says Muslims have first right on countries resources, so today I am a second class citizen in my own country just because I am a Hindu.
Govt. tell SC and Ram is a mythological character. I can write on and on but I think you got my point.
BJP is not against any religion, Sri Ram was an ancient King of India loved my the people for thousands of years, even Akbar issued coins in his name, Muslim poets wrote praises in his name than how come saying Jai Sri Ram become communal? Muslims were much safer in during NDA rule then Hindus are in UPA rule.
Pseudosecular media has brainwashed people so much even those born in HIndu family are hating their own religion. So unfortunate.
Excellent question.
Indian constitution says that the country is a Soverign, Secular Democratic Republic. People who do not respect the constitution and the rule of law try to change it into a Fanatic, Intolerent Communal Mobocracy.
The reasons could be either to fool people for personal gains or huge funding by Chinese and Pakistani spy agencies to destabilize a growing India by inciting communal divide, which is quite easy in a multi-religious society like ours.
Greater the rewards, greater the zeal, greater the propaganda and greater the lies and hate speech.
A simple example is terrorism. Terror can happen any where in the world, that is why it is called terror. It happened in USA too.
But while the Congress under Dr. Man Moha Singh sent commandos to flush out the terrorists, some others sent the Foreign Minister to escort terrorist like VIPs to Kandhhar. Ok! if the motive was to save the passengers, why was Kandhahar not bombed by the Indian Air Force and Kabul not stormed by the Army immediately after the release?
Oh! the PM did not have confidence in the HM or did the iron man began to melt under pressure? Everything about Gujrat except the murder of 1500 Muslims is a hype.
If a Muslim Political party keeps on saying Allah, what would hindu's feel?
Lets just assume that BJP does make a government, will they think about Muslims and Christians in India?
Thank you kindly for your POVs.Why do BJP politicians only talk about Hindus and rant Sri Ram? Is it radical group or political party?
They are politicians who are trying to fool people by making them more sentimental and emotional,
caz there is no one such educated in bjp who can tell them abt growth plans and allWhy do BJP politicians only talk about Hindus and rant Sri Ram? Is it radical group or political party?
Better know Hinduism and Hindu first and then talk all that rubbish Talking Hindus is radical and taking of Muslims and others is secularism is this your definition of secularism? ....majority of population is Hindu so what is wrong in working for them ? One cant talk about hindus in Pakistan or Bangladesh ...So what is your
problem ?
Hindu is geographical term every resident of India is Hindu ...HINDU = INDIAN ....
What is BJP's target?
- to get maximum no of Hindu votes .
How can a party attract Hindus ?
- make something your political agenda which is very closely related to Hindu sentiment.
Where can you find the most no of Hindu votes?
- in the so called 'cow-belt', %26amp; UP in this region has always played a vital role in Indian politics.
What is position of Ram among those ppl?
- ENORMOUS ! Ram is an inseparable part of their life.
I think you got your answer !
They don't stand for India and Indians.
Their love is first for the Hindus, then the north Indian Hindus and then the north Indian upper caste Hindus.
This a fact as clear as day light.
Good that you are a Hindu, but an ignorant Hindu. If you dont want to understand something not even god can make you understand it. So God bless you. But let me tell you that you are on the wrong side, sooner you realise it the better.
you are mistaken dear. BJP thinks for everyone. it has supporters from all sections of the society. there are lots of muslims in BJP.
unfortunately in india the system of election process gone wrong for votes.congress appease minorities for votes bjp appease majority.both are bad hence no body should feel bad
you are another victim of congress party's policy of ';buying'; media and using it as per their wish. actually this wonderful idea was gandhi's brainchild which congress inherited just like it inherited the policy of divide and rule from britishers.
and as far as indian constitution and secularism and muslim rights are concerned these all are weapons invented by congress to rule india upto eternity.
nobody ever talks of hindu rights in bangaldesh, pakistan and indonesia ( infact in kashmir and north-east as well ). do you know that pakistani flag has already been hoisted in assam and hindus have left that place. don't you think that you have some responsibility ( though i know that hindus are selfish ) towards fellow hindus. do you know that in malaysia temples are destroyed and hindus are forcefully converted. in indonesia hindus are leaving java and settling in bali ( thanks to balinese hindus who believe in tit for tat ). they ask indian government to interfere but this anti hindu congress govt. becomes silent spectator to prove its loyality to its muslim vote bank. hindus are converted by missionaries by allurement. do you know that western countries find india as a soft target to christianise because of its overstretched policies ( thanks to secularism ). they never set up their missionaries in china or muslim countries. i can type for hours but i have already given a detailed answer to your other question.
now it is up to you to preserve your culture and religion or make the same mistakes that hindus are doing for centuries. either learn from the history or remember history repeates itself.
and if you couldn't make out anything from my answer then i can only say that,
it is very normal for hindus like you to be ignorant. most hindus are ignorant. this ignorance of hindus is the sole reason for india's current position.
i can only pray to god to show fellow hindu brothers right path.
but friend please do one thing, only one thing.
JUST READ HISTORY OF CONGRESS PARTY FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. it will require at most your few hours. but spending that much time for your nation's future is worthwhile.
Muslims are already ranting Allah Ho Akbar on every corner. BJP is not against muslims but it is against appeasement politics. BJP wants justice for all and appeasement of none.
Congress has made muslims a votebank appeasing the fundamentalism and extremist elements amongst muslims. They give money for Madrassas but dont create universal public education for all regardless of religion.
They give subsidies for Haj from public funds when India could use those for development which would benefit the muslims too.
Secularism demands that the Country have a uniform civil code for all citizens but the Congress refuses to apply it. All western countries have uniform civil code.
The rights of muslim women as individuals in India have been compromised because of the abject surrender of the Congress to some muslim fundamentalists at the expense of the average muslims.
No country in the world with muslim populations gives Haj Subsidy including muslim countries but congress diverts much needed funds that can go toward a scientific education for muslims toward Haj subsidies.
Even Islam says that only a muslim who can afford to do the Haj should do it. Why subsidies then?
Muslims are their own worst enemies when they vote for congress.
Congress is like the parent who is spoiling his muslim child rotten but is actually doing them harm because the child will not learn to survive on their own in the modern world.
Give someone a fish and they eat for a day, teach them to fish and they will eat for life.
BJP may appear rude to muslims but this is the truth!
The CD controversy in U.P. election has proved once again, if any proof is needed, how much BJP hates Muslims. BJP's anti-Muslim record has touched new heights. How can any politically responsible party taking part in democratic election and taking oath for secularism, can produce such propaganda stuff. The CD is full of hate for Muslims and uses very derogatory language. The only parallel one can find is Nazi's hate of Jews, no other example could be found.
It celebrates any anti-Muslim measure or judgement. Recently when the single judge of Allahabad High Court declared Muslims in U.P. as not being a minority, the BJP spokesperson immediately welcomed the judgement as refutation of Congress party's ';minorityism';and vindication of BJP's stand. No other party welcomed the judgement and all other party's except the BJP criticised the judgement as unfair. The Judge had simply pronounced the judgement, which was not even relevant to the petition before him and he had not even given reasons for the judgement he delivered. The judgement was even against what the Supreme Court had held in TMA Pai Foundation judgement.
Right from post-independence days Muslims have been taken as constituting minority, though most major one. No one had ever expressed any doubt about it. The Supreme Court had held that any religious community less than 50% in number shall be deemed to be a minority and any all India -minority will also be deemed to be minority in any state. Also, as claimed by the honourable judge of Allahabad High Court, there are no such references in the Constitutional Assembly debates to prove that Muslims are not a minority in U.P. or any other state of Union of India.
Before all these matters were gone into, BJP immediately welcomed the judgement and treated it as vindication of its stand on minorityism. One can as well tell BJP that the Congress whether indulges in minorityism or not BJP certainly indulges in anti-Muslimism. It whole-heartedly welcomes any anti-Muslim measure most enthusiastically.
In fact during the entire campaign for Ramjanmabhoomi BJP and many of its individual members like Sadhvi Rithambara and others indulged in most vicious anti-Muslim campaign. Cheap rhetoric of all Muslims being ';Babar ki Aulad'; (Babar's children) was indulged in without any restraint. Uma Bharti and Rithambara used most abusive language against Muslims throughout Ramjanmaboomi campaign until Babri Masjid was demolished by a frenzied mob and when Masjid was demolished BJP leaders hugged each other in joy and celebrated the day as day of Diwali. Crackers were burst, especially in U.P. throughout that night.
Even today the Sangh Parivar celebrates it as ';Shaurya Divas'; (day of bravery) whereas whole country observes it as a tragic day in the history of secular India. And all this after the leaders of Jan Sangh, which was re-christened as Bhartiya Janta Party (BJP) had taken a vow on Gandhiji's Samadhi of following principles of Gandhian socialism and secularism. Soon after taking this oath in 1980 it started its anti-Muslim campaign describing constitutional secularism as pseudo-secularism and accused the Congress for indulging in ';minorityism'; and fought subsequent elections with those slogans.
I sincerely advise BJP leaders to rename the party as BHP (Bhartiya Hindu Party) as it always excludes Muslims from people of India. Had it been sincerely Bhartiya Janata Party, it would have never adopted such anti-Muslim attitude towards Indian Muslims. Thus Hindu Mahasabha is more sincere in its ideology as it clearly designates itself as Hindu Party caring only for Hindu interests. And to this extent Hindu Mahasabha leaders disagree with BJP because the important word ';Hindu'; is missing though it claims to be looking after Hindu interests.
The BJP leaders are trying to disown the CD under question only after the Election Commission took a strong view of the contents of the CD and said it is likely to promote disharmony between religious communities and issued notice to the BJP why action should not be taken against it. We congratulate the courage and principled stand taken by the Election Commission on this issue. It was overdue. Many prominent citizens have petitioned the Election Commission to de-recognise BJP as a political party as it always indulges in campaigns which endangers national unity and integrity.
Anyway any party, which publicly proclaims ';Hindutva Agenda'; cannot be a secular party which it avows to be. Hindutva or Islamism in political arena for that matter cannot be in conformity with secularism. Secularism is basically a political doctrine. All political parties have to conform to secularism as a political philosophy and Election Commission requires all candidates filing nomination to take oath for secularism and political parties also have to declare their acceptance of it. How can then a party proclaiming ';Hindutva';doctrine be accepted as secular? It defies common sense.
The B
you alone are not living in gujarat. i have never experienced any of the thing that you mentioned in gujarat i think you live in some alienated part of gujarat.they have not alienated Muslims and Christians from progress in gujarat. i know many Christians that today have voted for BJP.
and which type of Gujarati you are when people answered your question that all things in gujarat are hype except killing of 1500 Muslims.i am so tired of this 2002 incident that people in gujarat are trying to move on but people of remaining part of india are not allowing us to do so.
and you have misread advani's interview that Kashmir is India but it would be Kashmir is in India.
and if you know that Narendra Modi have delivered 11.5 % GDP growth higher than any other state then you should have supported him but people like did not want the growth and so are criticizing them for no reason.you must be some Patel's which are not given importance in elections today or must be some Muslim talking in name of Hindu.
Secular parties only talk about Muslims they don't talk about Hindus, then should not Hindus feel bad?
Pakistan and Bangladesh were once India, today they are Islamic countries, Hindus have been ethnically cleansed, no Hindu can live there even if they want to, because they are Islamic but Muslims can live in India because we are secular. J%26amp;K is only Muslim majority state and Hindus from the valley were ethnically cleansed, but no one talks about them, are not they Human beings?
Crores of rupees are given to Muslims for Haj subsides, why should secular govt. give that much money for religious pilgrimages. Why not Hindus are given money for pilgrimages?
What about the victims of terrorist attacks, no one talks about them but every one talks about Muslim riot victims that took place years before. Are Hindu terrorist victims not human beings, then why UPA withdrew POTA, why are they not hanging terrorist Afzal who was convicted by SC. Is this secularism.
PM says Muslims have first right on countries resources, so today I am a second class citizen in my own country just because I am a Hindu.
Govt. tell SC and Ram is a mythological character. I can write on and on but I think you got my point.
BJP is not against any religion, Sri Ram was an ancient King of India loved my the people for thousands of years, even Akbar issued coins in his name, Muslim poets wrote praises in his name than how come saying Jai Sri Ram become communal? Muslims were much safer in during NDA rule then Hindus are in UPA rule.
Pseudosecular media has brainwashed people so much even those born in HIndu family are hating their own religion. So unfortunate.
Excellent question.
Indian constitution says that the country is a Soverign, Secular Democratic Republic. People who do not respect the constitution and the rule of law try to change it into a Fanatic, Intolerent Communal Mobocracy.
The reasons could be either to fool people for personal gains or huge funding by Chinese and Pakistani spy agencies to destabilize a growing India by inciting communal divide, which is quite easy in a multi-religious society like ours.
Greater the rewards, greater the zeal, greater the propaganda and greater the lies and hate speech.
A simple example is terrorism. Terror can happen any where in the world, that is why it is called terror. It happened in USA too.
But while the Congress under Dr. Man Moha Singh sent commandos to flush out the terrorists, some others sent the Foreign Minister to escort terrorist like VIPs to Kandhhar. Ok! if the motive was to save the passengers, why was Kandhahar not bombed by the Indian Air Force and Kabul not stormed by the Army immediately after the release?
Oh! the PM did not have confidence in the HM or did the iron man began to melt under pressure? Everything about Gujrat except the murder of 1500 Muslims is a hype.
Now that Bush is gone.... Y are the political jokes soooo lame & most of them are just racist Con rant?
Since I am not affiliated with any political party, I can answer this question with open mind. Some Democrats and Republicans are guilty of bashing one another, such as what you have just posted here.Now that Bush is gone.... Y are the political jokes soooo lame %26amp; most of them are just racist Con rant?
Perhaps they are lame because Obama is LAME! The people elected an IGNORANT ARROGANT INEXPERIENCED person to be president! Obama is a JOKE!
Perhaps they are lame because Obama is LAME! The people elected an IGNORANT ARROGANT INEXPERIENCED person to be president! Obama is a JOKE!
Why do ';Why'; questions on this political forum always signal that the asker has an agenda or a rant?
OH LORD, now you've done it. You've asked a why question without an agenda or rant. You've tried to use logic and reason in the political forum and broken the chain. Seven years of bad luck for seven generations unto us all. And because it was in politics we're all doomed. Doomed I tell you. DOOMED.
Guess this means the Clinton clan and the Bush clan are going to alternate the Presidency for the next 49 years.Why do ';Why'; questions on this political forum always signal that the asker has an agenda or a rant?
why do you ask? oh, crap!Why do ';Why'; questions on this political forum always signal that the asker has an agenda or a rant?
Because its a forum for politics? Maybe?
I don't think that's the case. Usually it is, but you just asked one, and I don't see any agenda or rant.
That is so false, there is no agenda or rant in your ';why'; question.
Thee is no reason not to spread the truth, doing my little part to try and keep Americans from making a huge mistake by electing Billary.
after looking at the ';why'; questions often enough, it seems to be what it is. im not sure that they know how to do it any other way. i think its the ';sheep'; mentality of asking questions. looking at my past ones, i think im doing a better job of changing that in myself.
hopefully others can too.oily skin blackheads sun mask
Guess this means the Clinton clan and the Bush clan are going to alternate the Presidency for the next 49 years.Why do ';Why'; questions on this political forum always signal that the asker has an agenda or a rant?
why do you ask? oh, crap!Why do ';Why'; questions on this political forum always signal that the asker has an agenda or a rant?
Because its a forum for politics? Maybe?
I don't think that's the case. Usually it is, but you just asked one, and I don't see any agenda or rant.
That is so false, there is no agenda or rant in your ';why'; question.
Thee is no reason not to spread the truth, doing my little part to try and keep Americans from making a huge mistake by electing Billary.
after looking at the ';why'; questions often enough, it seems to be what it is. im not sure that they know how to do it any other way. i think its the ';sheep'; mentality of asking questions. looking at my past ones, i think im doing a better job of changing that in myself.
hopefully others can too.
Why do people in the political and religious sections ask dumb trolling questions which just promote ranting?
cos they know people will bite...and they are probably 12 and really bored....Why do people in the political and religious sections ask dumb trolling questions which just promote ranting?
Politics and religion are very sensitive subjects in which people tend to have strong beliefs over and take very personally. They also play a huge role in many people's lives.
Therefore, any strong stance on an issue is bound to incite emotional reaction from the opposition and is perceived as an attack on their beliefs, even if it is just constructive criticism. Some misinformed and deceitful people will go out of their way to distort the issues in order to favor their slant just for kicks. People inevitably take sides and try to shout down their ';competition.'; Political discourse has historically been and continues to be akin to a contact sport.
Then too, some people just want the attention since they lack any self-esteem and have little going for them in their otherwise pathetic and mundane lives.Why do people in the political and religious sections ask dumb trolling questions which just promote ranting?
Hello,
Quite often I see people use the word ';ranting'; especially when they are losing the argument badly. Many answers to foolish questions are well thought out and cited. Often the trolling questions seem to get the most answers so as ridiculous as they may be, there is indeed that market so to speak.
If I ask a question like a critique on certain chapters of Henry VIII's Defense Of The Seven Sacraments or something on particular Canon laws, I'm lucky to get 3 or 4 answers but if I say something like the Pope is the Anti-Christ or if a time machine were built, I'd assasinate Martin Luther before Hitler then I'd get a barrage of 50 + answers... for my personal entertainment!
Cheers,
Michael Kelly
If you're unfamiliar with the guidelines, you should read them (link, bottom of most pages).
Notice that non-questions are a violation that should be Reported.
Why?
Some people like to rile up others. Some are deluded enough to think they're ';getting people to think.'; Some are bored.
I must admit, I fall prey to them often enough. (MORE than 'enough' I suppose)
Dunno why, but ranting is just FUN.
like what???
Politics and religion are very sensitive subjects in which people tend to have strong beliefs over and take very personally. They also play a huge role in many people's lives.
Therefore, any strong stance on an issue is bound to incite emotional reaction from the opposition and is perceived as an attack on their beliefs, even if it is just constructive criticism. Some misinformed and deceitful people will go out of their way to distort the issues in order to favor their slant just for kicks. People inevitably take sides and try to shout down their ';competition.'; Political discourse has historically been and continues to be akin to a contact sport.
Then too, some people just want the attention since they lack any self-esteem and have little going for them in their otherwise pathetic and mundane lives.Why do people in the political and religious sections ask dumb trolling questions which just promote ranting?
Hello,
Quite often I see people use the word ';ranting'; especially when they are losing the argument badly. Many answers to foolish questions are well thought out and cited. Often the trolling questions seem to get the most answers so as ridiculous as they may be, there is indeed that market so to speak.
If I ask a question like a critique on certain chapters of Henry VIII's Defense Of The Seven Sacraments or something on particular Canon laws, I'm lucky to get 3 or 4 answers but if I say something like the Pope is the Anti-Christ or if a time machine were built, I'd assasinate Martin Luther before Hitler then I'd get a barrage of 50 + answers... for my personal entertainment!
Cheers,
Michael Kelly
If you're unfamiliar with the guidelines, you should read them (link, bottom of most pages).
Notice that non-questions are a violation that should be Reported.
Why?
Some people like to rile up others. Some are deluded enough to think they're ';getting people to think.'; Some are bored.
I must admit, I fall prey to them often enough. (MORE than 'enough' I suppose)
Dunno why, but ranting is just FUN.
like what???
Rant about political correctness?
Rant about anything that annoys you to do with PC, health and safety etcRant about political correctness?
My British Flag (Union Flag) will fly proudly.
If anyone tells me to take it down,they will get a smack in the chops!
Political Correctness is a lefty device used to further erode Great Britain.Rant about political correctness?
It annoys me that working men, the real backbone of this country, set out to do a days work and end up being maimed or killed because of the greed or utter callousness of people who sit at desks and pontificate.
It annoys me that greedy men will snipe at the measures put in place to protect the innocent.
It really annoys me that in the 21st century, working people are still considered the playthings of the wealthy.
The pc brigade continually think up stupid things to ban in case it might offend anyone like the word Christmas or harmless words in a nursery rhyme or being a Christian etc etc etc, I could go on for ever. The thing is most of the time these things aren't offending anyone. Why should these faceless people get away with their constant meddling and interference in our everyday lives. The only ones causing offence are them.
Alkies get preferential treatment because they have a ';disease'; loosing a job to an alky during the recent pay offs sort of makes one quite annoyed, i'm sober in work they're stinking of drink and half cut every day and i get the heave ho!
I think political correctness can be over the top, but sometimes the pendulum can swing the other way and people use 'it's political correctness gone mad' to justify coming out with the most obnoxious beliefs as if they were commonly held.
I miss people talking real thoughts with and full flavor.
Just like my cigarettes and beer I like the real thing.
But then I cook with lard and butter.
We drink whole milk and eat meat also.
It is sad it makes us so healthy and we do not go to Drs.
Well. I personally would rather attend a P*// up in a brewery than a party for inebriates in an ale production facility.
It's gay and black and stands on the top of a step ladder with wet hands trying to change a lightbulb.
how good is little britain
My British Flag (Union Flag) will fly proudly.
If anyone tells me to take it down,they will get a smack in the chops!
Political Correctness is a lefty device used to further erode Great Britain.Rant about political correctness?
It annoys me that working men, the real backbone of this country, set out to do a days work and end up being maimed or killed because of the greed or utter callousness of people who sit at desks and pontificate.
It annoys me that greedy men will snipe at the measures put in place to protect the innocent.
It really annoys me that in the 21st century, working people are still considered the playthings of the wealthy.
The pc brigade continually think up stupid things to ban in case it might offend anyone like the word Christmas or harmless words in a nursery rhyme or being a Christian etc etc etc, I could go on for ever. The thing is most of the time these things aren't offending anyone. Why should these faceless people get away with their constant meddling and interference in our everyday lives. The only ones causing offence are them.
Alkies get preferential treatment because they have a ';disease'; loosing a job to an alky during the recent pay offs sort of makes one quite annoyed, i'm sober in work they're stinking of drink and half cut every day and i get the heave ho!
I think political correctness can be over the top, but sometimes the pendulum can swing the other way and people use 'it's political correctness gone mad' to justify coming out with the most obnoxious beliefs as if they were commonly held.
I miss people talking real thoughts with and full flavor.
Just like my cigarettes and beer I like the real thing.
But then I cook with lard and butter.
We drink whole milk and eat meat also.
It is sad it makes us so healthy and we do not go to Drs.
Well. I personally would rather attend a P*// up in a brewery than a party for inebriates in an ale production facility.
It's gay and black and stands on the top of a step ladder with wet hands trying to change a lightbulb.
how good is little britain
The Times Exploits Justice O'Connor's Husband's Medical Condition for Political Rant?
The Times Exploits Justice O'Connor's Husband's Medical Condition for Political Rant
I have to say, this little L.A.Times editorial really takes the cake for insensitivity. It should receive some sort of award for being one of the most gauche pieces I've seen from the extreme leftists masquerading as ';journalists'; for a long, long time. Yes, the Times deserves condemnation for exploiting someone's tragedy to make a mere political point.
In ';Sandra Day O'Connor's loss, and ours,'; the Times laments that because of the former Justice's husband's Alzheimer's disease, Sandra Day quit the bench so we lost her to the court and that loss has resulted in the court being ';radically tilted to the right.'; Imagine exploiting John O'Connor's disease like this? If a Republican had written this editorial, imagine the hate that would be spewed against him?
This is really a shocking editorial.:
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition鈥?/a>The Times Exploits Justice O'Connor's Husband's Medical Condition for Political Rant?
That is your negative and politically driven interpretation of that editorial. To me they just stated a political fact, didn't gloat about her husband's illness, nor criticize her decision.I read the editorial as a homage to Justice O'Connor and agree with its content.The Times Exploits Justice O'Connor's Husband's Medical Condition for Political Rant?
No, it is not exploitation.
Also, you did not have to say this, Warner Todd Huston did.
I read the same yester morning. I didn't get as upset as you but it definitely struck as poor and n bad taste. Elsewhere in the same paper there was articles about the cut back at LA Times to save money. I thought there would be a good place to start.
I have to say, this little L.A.Times editorial really takes the cake for insensitivity. It should receive some sort of award for being one of the most gauche pieces I've seen from the extreme leftists masquerading as ';journalists'; for a long, long time. Yes, the Times deserves condemnation for exploiting someone's tragedy to make a mere political point.
In ';Sandra Day O'Connor's loss, and ours,'; the Times laments that because of the former Justice's husband's Alzheimer's disease, Sandra Day quit the bench so we lost her to the court and that loss has resulted in the court being ';radically tilted to the right.'; Imagine exploiting John O'Connor's disease like this? If a Republican had written this editorial, imagine the hate that would be spewed against him?
This is really a shocking editorial.:
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition鈥?/a>The Times Exploits Justice O'Connor's Husband's Medical Condition for Political Rant?
That is your negative and politically driven interpretation of that editorial. To me they just stated a political fact, didn't gloat about her husband's illness, nor criticize her decision.I read the editorial as a homage to Justice O'Connor and agree with its content.The Times Exploits Justice O'Connor's Husband's Medical Condition for Political Rant?
No, it is not exploitation.
Also, you did not have to say this, Warner Todd Huston did.
I read the same yester morning. I didn't get as upset as you but it definitely struck as poor and n bad taste. Elsewhere in the same paper there was articles about the cut back at LA Times to save money. I thought there would be a good place to start.
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